Thank you. I’ve had long covid for five years. Those of us so afflicted wear masks and don’t understand why others do not. Thank you for posting the research. I hope you are as well as possible.
Toby, sorry you have been dealing with this for so long. Our family of five are still masking, but it’s becoming rarer in our area. People who mask or masked in the past, begin to doubt reality when everything they see is the opposite.
If you are not directly affected, I think this no masking visual, and social power is incredibly powerful.
I have had at least eight. Last one in May, after I caught Covid a second time (first March 2020) in January 2025, when I wore mask on a plane but my family did not. 😑. A guy was coughing right behind us.
The comments section seems to be infected by anti vax trolls, bots, and sock puppets. Doesn’t take very long to skim their page to see what they’re about. Worth it to spend a few minutes blocking these accounts, keeping them from wasting your time and energy.
Thanks for that suggestion, Teri - horrified to see all the antivaxxer trolls on this platform and their absurd responses to this well-written, well-sourced article. “You can’t fix stupid” but you can block them!
Might all be the same guy sitting in his mom’s basement, or one of pootins places. Skimming their profile I see levels of bigotry, sexism and hate that are off the charts.
You can’t argue with a cultist anymore than you should get in a car with anyone you know is a bad driver. Waste of effort; best to just worry about yours and others safety. When enough people won’t engage/ get in the car maybe they’ll think about driving lessons.
Of course. Anyone who disagrees is an anti-vax troll. And anyone who has a different opinion should be blocked. Typical. I could have insulted you in my post but chose to appeal to your intelligence. You also had that choice but chose to stay with your herd. Spend some time outside it and think for yourself.
You're right Teri, thank you, reporting right now. It's a tedious job though, there's so many of them! And they have so many likes. I'm writing paragraphs upon paragraphs addressed to an automated moderator. Oh well...
Not sure how we got from Covid to Zelenskyy, but I’m not stopping anyone from exercising their free speech rights. Making the decision to not listen to b.s. or bullying is my right, I only report threats.
I just wrote a piece about my 5.5 years of Long COVID in an attempt to show people this as well. It's a feature not a bug of late capitalism to pretend this isn't happening. Profits before people every damn time.
Yup. Capitalism produced the virus (through overcrowding, poor ventilation, storing live exotic animals together in markets, escape from a lab, or compromised personal immunity or a combination of these).
Capitalism can ignore long Covid as it hasn't got a job for everyone (to keep wages down) and it needs to cut costs to, as you say, maximise profits.
No, no, no. There's no such thing as long vax. The relatively low rate of vaccine sensitivity showed up as a sudden serious heart issue. It is the having Covid which sensitises some people and causes it to affect many of the body's system. That is long Covid and is it horrible and can largely be avoided by having vaccinations. The risk is increased by multiple infections with Covid.
Um hum. Clearly the lab in Wuhan, set up to study bat coronavirus, had nothing to do with it; had to be the farmers market down the road.
In fact, both the FBI and CIA have weighed in on this. The confusion is due to a cover-up and huge public media campaign.
Sadly, every single thing in our nation has become politicized - and because the right wing blew the whistle on this (pretending to care, which they don’t), liberals need to stick to the ‘market’ theory or be branded ideological traitors.
Meanwhile, a lab funded by US tax dollars to evade an Obama era US ban on this kind of research killed millions of people, our own governments lied about it to us, and pharma went on to earn trillions from it — and no one responsible has been held accountable.
Why? Because the Republicans used this to take cheap political hay, and Democrats can’t upset the donors.
Kate, the truth about the Kennedy assassination hasn’t come out yet.
The truth actually has come out - it came out to no fanfare, little coverage, and after everyone had moved on. The truth was coming out even as the pandemic unfolded; those who were saying ‘Hey… isn’t there a lab…’ were shouted down, de-platformed from social media, banned from the newspapers, and lost jobs.’
Liberals made believing in the wet-market theory a litmus test of group solidarity. The “wet-market” theory was ALWAYS stupid and racist.
The Republican’s were outraged, held hearing after hearing until their boy took office, and now it’s just crickets.
Now, I don’t believe (as some do) that the lab leak was done on purpose, but I do know for a fact that Fauci and the NIH and Darpa had very good personal and ‘national defense’ excuses to cover this up.
First, they were breaking the fucking law on Gain of Function research. Next, they were working with the Chinese government funding what might have been a bio-weapon. Third, many leaders had deep investments in Biolab research. Fourth - can you imagine at the top of this pandemic what would have happened if the government had actually said ‘oops.. we were doing this thing we weren’t supposed to be doing and that ya’ll didn’t want us doing, and now… well, lock up your kids!’
The worst, most fucked up fact of this all is that had they come right out and said it, research into this infection would have been 100x quicker. Scientists would not have had to pick a political position to influence their science. We might have been able to avoid new untested vaccines in favor of tested, traditional vaccines. We would have known vast lockdowns would be unnecessary. The immediate political in-fighting over this caused so very much confusion - and cost so very many lives.
I had polio as a child. I have read about post poliomyelitis syndrome. I have wondered if this was also due to dormant virus in the body? As someone who worked in healthcare and respects science, I have long felt we underestimate viruses. The ability to mutate so rapidly to adapt! Thank you for this article and the tremendous amount of work on your part to compile facts with meaningful discussion.
I am familiar with differences between viruses. I was questioning whether the the long term effects were a function of viral particles activated after dormancy or a result of the damage to organs that are unable to recover.
Thank you for this. My husband and I have not stopped masking. We are immunocompromised. No one understands though. No one else masks for us (not even doctors) and people often come up to us and purposely cough in our faces and then laugh when they see us wearing masks. I reported one instance of cough/laugh/spit to the police and they said there’s nothing they can do about it. It’s devastating. Immunocompromised people have always been treated as expendable.
I loved this! It's crazy how much Covid gets ignored. As someone who works in education, I constantly hear people blaming changes in attendance, test scores, and behavior on anything but covid...
My son is 20 and has monthly seizures as a result of Covid. He also has PTSD from years of being told his issues were due to his own inability to toughen up and manage stress effectively. It took 2.5 years to find a neurologist who would even consider the idea that his symptoms were real, and treat him accordingly. He had to drop out of his freshman year of college.
Fortunately, his current medication regimen limits his seizures to *just* 1-2 a month (total sarcasm on the *just*, because even that number is outrageous and causing permanent long-term damage). He has a service dog who alerts him to oncoming seizures and helps him with his post-seizure symptoms. He’s back at college, and doing his best to balance his health with the need to live his life. I’ve come to accept that I am likely to outlive him due to the ongoing damage this disease causes to his system. But it makes me so incredibly angry.
Yep. Bob Kraft, who has been a big donor to Boston area hospitals flew a bunch of PPE in from China on his private plane for use in the overwhelmed hospitals. However, since a different company's private shipment had been impounded by the feds previously, his pilots filed a flight plan that had them landing an hour later than they did. They were able to get them all off-loaded and on the road to hospitals before the feds arrived. They literally had to lie in order to prevent more doctors and other health workers from dying.
I am sorry for your son’s condition. Seizures have been reported and are common by vaccine recipients, not persons who had covid. Did he get the shot? Boosters? If so, there’s a lot of his problems He can help himself by doing things to detox his body and of course, stop getting the shots. I wish you well
Despite masking and being up to date with vaccines, I caught COVID for the second time last year from someone at work who insisted they just had a cold. I now have Long COVID (the constant muscle aches, joint pain and fatigue flavour). Weirdly, reading posts like this is comforting because it shows someone else is still paying attention.
I've had COVID once--the only time that I skipped a vaccination point-- and appear to have completely recovered. But I already had Lyme (which faces the same refusal to admit it's a long term chronic infection). I think the routine I already had in place against Lyme probably helped prevent Long COVID (though that is no more than my personal opinion). I also mask any time I'm in a public space, and will get the updated COVID vaccine as soon as it's available in my area.
Those of us with Lyme saw the similarities between it and Long COVID as soon as it began to be reported--severe fatigue, cognitive problems, cardiac problems, the whole list.
This! “Stop shaming people who still mask. They’re not crazy. They’re paying attention. They’re the ones who’ll still have functioning organs in ten years while everyone else is wondering why they can’t climb stairs anymore.”
Thank you so much! We mask up indoors and have for years. We get dirty looks and have people point at us whispering who knows what, but as you say this virus is not playing and we are not giving it any easy times for infecting us.
List of ppl mask so they lower the risk of bringing anything home to an immunocompromised family member. We need to all mind our business about why ppl wear them. Not your concern.
And so what now? I am currently recovering from round 3 of covid after spending 72 hours in bed… (Not too bad but not “just a cold”…) I work remotely 100% and actually go out rather seldom, but live in a house where kids go to school… I’ll click through half the studies… But what are we supposed to do in this new reality? What supplements, peptides, drugs, foods, magic cocktails, breathing exercises can I take to feel better and prevent a slow miserable death or sudden death in the future?
I want actionable steps, not a pseudo political rant about what we coulda, shoulda, if only we woulda…
Thank you. I’ve had long covid for five years. Those of us so afflicted wear masks and don’t understand why others do not. Thank you for posting the research. I hope you are as well as possible.
Toby, sorry you have been dealing with this for so long. Our family of five are still masking, but it’s becoming rarer in our area. People who mask or masked in the past, begin to doubt reality when everything they see is the opposite.
If you are not directly affected, I think this no masking visual, and social power is incredibly powerful.
FYI, I got Covid and long COVID in March 2020, one year before there were vaccines.
If you don’t want to take an mRNA vaccine, you can take Novavax, same kind as other vaccines.
Have you kept up with your vaccinations?
I have had at least eight. Last one in May, after I caught Covid a second time (first March 2020) in January 2025, when I wore mask on a plane but my family did not. 😑. A guy was coughing right behind us.
They got Covid and then I did.
Will get my next Covid shot this month or next!
And maybe no more travelling just in case .
Traveling on a plane this Thursday 🙄. I wear a mask and a face shield. And I make my family wear masks in line and on the plane 😆.
My latest is I also take four capsules of Wellness Formula daily during the trip to boost immunity 🙂
Good job, a face shield is most definitely recommended and gloves if you can.
Lol, are you people still not done arguing with the ever smaller number of people believing in the institutions.
Do something worthwhile for yourself, figure out race realism, 9/11 or that they lied about Hitler.
The comments section seems to be infected by anti vax trolls, bots, and sock puppets. Doesn’t take very long to skim their page to see what they’re about. Worth it to spend a few minutes blocking these accounts, keeping them from wasting your time and energy.
(First clue is usually a stupid name)
Going through now and cleaning out a bunch. Wasn’t keeping up on what was going on.
Thanks for that suggestion, Teri - horrified to see all the antivaxxer trolls on this platform and their absurd responses to this well-written, well-sourced article. “You can’t fix stupid” but you can block them!
Might all be the same guy sitting in his mom’s basement, or one of pootins places. Skimming their profile I see levels of bigotry, sexism and hate that are off the charts.
You can’t argue with a cultist anymore than you should get in a car with anyone you know is a bad driver. Waste of effort; best to just worry about yours and others safety. When enough people won’t engage/ get in the car maybe they’ll think about driving lessons.
I doubt they’d take lessons. They are so fucking full of themselves
Of course. Anyone who disagrees is an anti-vax troll. And anyone who has a different opinion should be blocked. Typical. I could have insulted you in my post but chose to appeal to your intelligence. You also had that choice but chose to stay with your herd. Spend some time outside it and think for yourself.
Anyone who disagrees with me without a good faith argument and valid citations gets blocked, Craig
Sock puppets! Lol!!!
It has absolutely morning to do with any names you all any triball idiots on any side of the war.
The truth is in the middle.
This article has scientific merit.
But missing hilariously sad things.
Sadly the conspiracy types haven't learned basics yet about the virus, and the doctors can't learn the dangers of the mRNA.
What is os sad is the article says. "It isn't a cold".
And right there is one of the most important facts and missed solutions of all.
There has always been a free safe excellent nasal vaccine available to humanity.
A common cold coronavirus.
They disappeared from public knowledge..
5.4 years ago.
And nobody even noticed.
Except me.
You're right Teri, thank you, reporting right now. It's a tedious job though, there's so many of them! And they have so many likes. I'm writing paragraphs upon paragraphs addressed to an automated moderator. Oh well...
Not sure how we got from Covid to Zelenskyy, but I’m not stopping anyone from exercising their free speech rights. Making the decision to not listen to b.s. or bullying is my right, I only report threats.
I just wrote a piece about my 5.5 years of Long COVID in an attempt to show people this as well. It's a feature not a bug of late capitalism to pretend this isn't happening. Profits before people every damn time.
Yup. Capitalism produced the virus (through overcrowding, poor ventilation, storing live exotic animals together in markets, escape from a lab, or compromised personal immunity or a combination of these).
Capitalism can ignore long Covid as it hasn't got a job for everyone (to keep wages down) and it needs to cut costs to, as you say, maximise profits.
you have LONG VAX not FAKE "LONG COVID"...
No, no, no. There's no such thing as long vax. The relatively low rate of vaccine sensitivity showed up as a sudden serious heart issue. It is the having Covid which sensitises some people and causes it to affect many of the body's system. That is long Covid and is it horrible and can largely be avoided by having vaccinations. The risk is increased by multiple infections with Covid.
Laboratory experiments. It was released as a result of bio weapons experiments.
I don't think that's proven it's still speculative.
Um hum. Clearly the lab in Wuhan, set up to study bat coronavirus, had nothing to do with it; had to be the farmers market down the road.
In fact, both the FBI and CIA have weighed in on this. The confusion is due to a cover-up and huge public media campaign.
Sadly, every single thing in our nation has become politicized - and because the right wing blew the whistle on this (pretending to care, which they don’t), liberals need to stick to the ‘market’ theory or be branded ideological traitors.
Meanwhile, a lab funded by US tax dollars to evade an Obama era US ban on this kind of research killed millions of people, our own governments lied about it to us, and pharma went on to earn trillions from it — and no one responsible has been held accountable.
Why? Because the Republicans used this to take cheap political hay, and Democrats can’t upset the donors.
It's possible. It will eventually come out. You're right in that at this moment it suits both neo-Liberal parties in the US to bury it.
Kate, the truth about the Kennedy assassination hasn’t come out yet.
The truth actually has come out - it came out to no fanfare, little coverage, and after everyone had moved on. The truth was coming out even as the pandemic unfolded; those who were saying ‘Hey… isn’t there a lab…’ were shouted down, de-platformed from social media, banned from the newspapers, and lost jobs.’
Liberals made believing in the wet-market theory a litmus test of group solidarity. The “wet-market” theory was ALWAYS stupid and racist.
The Republican’s were outraged, held hearing after hearing until their boy took office, and now it’s just crickets.
Now, I don’t believe (as some do) that the lab leak was done on purpose, but I do know for a fact that Fauci and the NIH and Darpa had very good personal and ‘national defense’ excuses to cover this up.
First, they were breaking the fucking law on Gain of Function research. Next, they were working with the Chinese government funding what might have been a bio-weapon. Third, many leaders had deep investments in Biolab research. Fourth - can you imagine at the top of this pandemic what would have happened if the government had actually said ‘oops.. we were doing this thing we weren’t supposed to be doing and that ya’ll didn’t want us doing, and now… well, lock up your kids!’
The worst, most fucked up fact of this all is that had they come right out and said it, research into this infection would have been 100x quicker. Scientists would not have had to pick a political position to influence their science. We might have been able to avoid new untested vaccines in favor of tested, traditional vaccines. We would have known vast lockdowns would be unnecessary. The immediate political in-fighting over this caused so very much confusion - and cost so very many lives.
And not one of these jackals, including the company that invented this virus (EcoHealth), will ever pay the price. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd9qjjj4zy5o
Did you have your boosters?
read my piece, it's long. I got COVID before there were vaccines.
https://open.substack.com/pub/julialeebarclaymorton/p/the-loneliness-of-the-long-covid?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=17eqxo
Going to read this evening.
I had polio as a child. I have read about post poliomyelitis syndrome. I have wondered if this was also due to dormant virus in the body? As someone who worked in healthcare and respects science, I have long felt we underestimate viruses. The ability to mutate so rapidly to adapt! Thank you for this article and the tremendous amount of work on your part to compile facts with meaningful discussion.
Anyone who has ever experienced shingles knows that we definitely underestimate viruses.
I am familiar with differences between viruses. I was questioning whether the the long term effects were a function of viral particles activated after dormancy or a result of the damage to organs that are unable to recover.
Thank you for this. My husband and I have not stopped masking. We are immunocompromised. No one understands though. No one else masks for us (not even doctors) and people often come up to us and purposely cough in our faces and then laugh when they see us wearing masks. I reported one instance of cough/laugh/spit to the police and they said there’s nothing they can do about it. It’s devastating. Immunocompromised people have always been treated as expendable.
I loved this! It's crazy how much Covid gets ignored. As someone who works in education, I constantly hear people blaming changes in attendance, test scores, and behavior on anything but covid...
thank you, reading this was a balm for my spirit amid all the denial
My son is 20 and has monthly seizures as a result of Covid. He also has PTSD from years of being told his issues were due to his own inability to toughen up and manage stress effectively. It took 2.5 years to find a neurologist who would even consider the idea that his symptoms were real, and treat him accordingly. He had to drop out of his freshman year of college.
Fortunately, his current medication regimen limits his seizures to *just* 1-2 a month (total sarcasm on the *just*, because even that number is outrageous and causing permanent long-term damage). He has a service dog who alerts him to oncoming seizures and helps him with his post-seizure symptoms. He’s back at college, and doing his best to balance his health with the need to live his life. I’ve come to accept that I am likely to outlive him due to the ongoing damage this disease causes to his system. But it makes me so incredibly angry.
It is so discouraging to listen to people who have been sold it is the vaccine. Trump had a lot to do with it, by going on about Covid was a hoax.
555,000 Americans died of Covid during the 12 weeks he golfed and did nothing. (Brookings Institute)
He had PPE, but decided people weren't being nice enough to him so he sold it all to China.
Not making it up.🗽🇺🇲🇺🇦
Yep. Bob Kraft, who has been a big donor to Boston area hospitals flew a bunch of PPE in from China on his private plane for use in the overwhelmed hospitals. However, since a different company's private shipment had been impounded by the feds previously, his pilots filed a flight plan that had them landing an hour later than they did. They were able to get them all off-loaded and on the road to hospitals before the feds arrived. They literally had to lie in order to prevent more doctors and other health workers from dying.
I am sorry for your son’s condition. Seizures have been reported and are common by vaccine recipients, not persons who had covid. Did he get the shot? Boosters? If so, there’s a lot of his problems He can help himself by doing things to detox his body and of course, stop getting the shots. I wish you well
epic piece, thank you.
Thank you Ryan!
Thankyou David. Good article. I'm very anti Vax but I'm logic scientist not a tribal eterem lunatic like most.
I'm Gunna go investigate common cold coroanviris NL63 because it also binds to ace2.
Your article . Has shifted my concern up about COVID after years of not being bothered.
Bit that notion that kids are being hit with it again and again. As you said, it's one membrane to the blood.
Then off and away to brain heart etc.
Cumulative microscarring on vital organs?... That's a surreal nightmare!!!
Fauci built a biblical horror!
The common cold coronaviruses. Disappeared from human COGNITIVE knowledge in 2020
Yes I said that clearly.
The planet literally "forgot"'tje one Gould free vaccine.
Don't know how.
Biblical... Stuff.
Nobody's even learned there names yet
Despite masking and being up to date with vaccines, I caught COVID for the second time last year from someone at work who insisted they just had a cold. I now have Long COVID (the constant muscle aches, joint pain and fatigue flavour). Weirdly, reading posts like this is comforting because it shows someone else is still paying attention.
I've had COVID once--the only time that I skipped a vaccination point-- and appear to have completely recovered. But I already had Lyme (which faces the same refusal to admit it's a long term chronic infection). I think the routine I already had in place against Lyme probably helped prevent Long COVID (though that is no more than my personal opinion). I also mask any time I'm in a public space, and will get the updated COVID vaccine as soon as it's available in my area.
Those of us with Lyme saw the similarities between it and Long COVID as soon as it began to be reported--severe fatigue, cognitive problems, cardiac problems, the whole list.
Make sure you get your boosters
Yes, I have everything except the newest COVID.
Apparently I hear RFK is rolling out his new vaccine soon,I think he’s called it the ‘Smart’ vaccine so hopefully this one will be even more effective
I got Covid way before vaccines came out (March , 2020) and then had Long Covid for five years. Sorry anti-vax boneheads, no vaccine involved🤷♂️.
This! “Stop shaming people who still mask. They’re not crazy. They’re paying attention. They’re the ones who’ll still have functioning organs in ten years while everyone else is wondering why they can’t climb stairs anymore.”
Thank you so much! We mask up indoors and have for years. We get dirty looks and have people point at us whispering who knows what, but as you say this virus is not playing and we are not giving it any easy times for infecting us.
List of ppl mask so they lower the risk of bringing anything home to an immunocompromised family member. We need to all mind our business about why ppl wear them. Not your concern.
Thank you. Being gaslit by literally most of society family and friends is. Terrible af actually, appreciate the validation and dose of reality.
And so what now? I am currently recovering from round 3 of covid after spending 72 hours in bed… (Not too bad but not “just a cold”…) I work remotely 100% and actually go out rather seldom, but live in a house where kids go to school… I’ll click through half the studies… But what are we supposed to do in this new reality? What supplements, peptides, drugs, foods, magic cocktails, breathing exercises can I take to feel better and prevent a slow miserable death or sudden death in the future?
I want actionable steps, not a pseudo political rant about what we coulda, shoulda, if only we woulda…
Thank you.
Somehow people don't want to believe it could happen to them. They don't want to be "seen" wearing a mask.
With the CDC gone it is going to get worse.
Trump had a lot to do with it, calling Covid a hoax.
March 2020 555,000
Americans died in the 12 weeks he did nothing.
-Brookings Institute
And then they told everyone to go back to work.
🗽🇺🇲🇺🇦
Trump was responsible for Operation Warp speed …no?
He was president at the time. Responsible??? Idk